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#80438 02/11/03 01:46 PM
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Brothers and Sisters,

I would like to ask what are some of the more influential writings or principles in eastern spirituality regarding submission to ecclesial authority.

I would guess that submission to the bishop (and his representatives) has always been the "sine qua non" of Orthodoxy...but can anyone cite writers or historical examples that highlight the tension between the principle of submission to authority and the principle of personal responsibility: and the point at which one may take precedence over the other?

Thank you in advance,
Robert

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I think in addition to this question, would be the issue of conscience in Eastern Christian theology and when the conscience runs up against ecclesial authority.

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Hmmm.

Does anybody else see a difference in the concepts of submission to authority (legalistic) and the virtue of obedience (spiritual)?

The sayings of the Desert Fathers are full of tales of monks who were "of great obedience" as a matter of faith and love.

I think there is a difference.

Maybe not germane to the discussion.....

Sharon


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