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Is there any tradition of women in the Eastern Catholic Churches or in the Orthodox Churches wearing head coverings during prayer or worship?
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Originally posted by Carole:
Is there any tradition of women in the Eastern Catholic Churches or in the Orthodox Churches wearing head coverings during prayer or worship? Herre we go again Carole  Yes ....... and no :p I have not seen it in the UGCC Churches - but I have in ROCOR - yes headcoverings [ scarves not Latin mantillas ] and in ROCOR men and women stand on opposite sides of the Church. I believe that Old Believers have this tradition too - Diak - over to you ???? Anhelyna
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Originally posted by Our Lady's slave of love: Originally posted by Carole:
[qb] Is there any tradition of women in the Eastern Catholic Churches or in the Orthodox Churches wearing head coverings during prayer or worship? You can never accuse me of asking questions that are too easy to answer! Originally posted by Our Lady's slave of love:
Yes ....... and no :p
I have not seen it in the UGCC Churches - but I have in ROCOR - yes headcoverings [ scarves not Latin mantillas ] and in ROCOR men and women stand on opposite sides of the Church.
I believe that Old Believers have this tradition too - Diak - over to you ????
Brain cramp time ... UGCC and ROCOR - what do these initials mean? I'm sure I've read them at some point before - but my brain is on the fritz today. Might have something to do with the searing headache I have had since smashing my head into a door frame while putting groceries in the pantry... or it could just be that I'm loosing my mind.
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OH BOY - here we go - you are going to come across a lot of these acronyms here UGCC - Ukrainian Greco Catholic Church - yup -- as it says Catholic  headed by Patriarch Lubomyr Husar [ who is also a Cardinal ] . ROCOR - Russian Orthodox Church Outside Of Russia And wait for all the others to come rolling in at you - I won't perplex you with those I know now Might have something to do with the searing headache I have had since smashing my head into a door frame while putting groceries in the pantry.. OUCH - now take it easy today and don't sit at the computer for long - that was not nice  Anhelyna
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Carole, UGCC = Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church ROCOR = Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia Originally posted by Carole:
Might have something to do with the searing headache I have had since smashing my head into a door frame while putting groceries in the pantry Hmm, sounds like an argument for headcoverings at all times - perhaps of the hardhat variety Many years, Neil
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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Originally posted by Irish Melkite: Hmm, sounds like an argument for headcoverings at all times - perhaps of the hardhat variety Too true, my friend. Too true!
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Hi Carole
In the "Old, old country", not only did the women wear something during prayer times but anytime they left the house.
The headcovering showed their station within the village community; i.e. eligible for marriage, married, married with children, widow.
In some areas, where the Ottoman Empire held sway, it was, at one time, against the law for a woman to leave the house without covering her hair and the punishment was severe.
Hope this helps...
mark who has ASPCA on speed dial in case anyone starts beating "the dead horse" again... :p
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In the "Old, old country", not only did the women wear something during prayer times but anytime they left the house. And a headcovering, too! 
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Originally posted by djs: In the "Old, old country", not only did the women wear something during prayer times but anytime they left the house. LOL! :p
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Originally posted by djs: In the "Old, old country", not only did the women wear something during prayer times but anytime they left the house. hahahahahahah Don't make me laugh it hurts my head. What about in modern common practice? I know that some women in the Latin Church will choose to wear a headcovering as a personal devotion as it is no longer written in the Code of Canon Law for the Latin Church.
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Dear Friends, I refuse to participate in this discusson about head-coverings for women on the grounds that I find the whole idea too . . . interesting. I don't want to go to confession just over this thread . . .  Alex
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hehe - well go and answer my Question on the Icon thread please - that should keep you out of trouble
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I am counting the years even as I read these posts. Sniff. I remember wearing a doily,we called them chapel veils) scarf, or hat in church (RC) until I was somewhere in my twenties. Even got in trouble with the sisters and my parents in the first grade when I switched the nice girly hat mother gave me to one of my dad's VFW hats. It may have been bigger trouble if I had worn a KofC...one.That was to daily mass once before school started. Could never have done it on Sunday... :rolleyes:
Seriusly though we did cover our heads for years and a very few R.C. women still do but not as many as in the Byzantine churches we have visited.
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Carole, I cover my head. I took a class at my parish on the Divine Liturgy, and after learning about the significance of all of the parts of the Liturgy felt compelled to. To me it is symbolic of humble submission to the Lord. Christ is truly present at Divine Liturgy, and to appear in his presence any way that does not feel humbly submissive is to say "Here I am! I am good enough just as I am!" Often I am the only woman in church with her head covered (usually by a babushka), but most people have been accepting of it. A few have asked questions about my decision, and a few have asked if I speak English!
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Originally posted by LaFamiliaFelix:
Carole, I cover my head. I took a class at my parish on the Divine Liturgy, and after learning about the significance of all of the parts of the Liturgy felt compelled to. To me it is symbolic of humble submission to the Lord. Christ is truly present at Divine Liturgy, and to appear in his presence any way that does not feel humbly submissive is to say "Here I am! I am good enough just as I am!" Often I am the only woman in church with her head covered (usually by a babushka), but most people have been accepting of it. A few have asked questions about my decision, and a few have asked if I speak English! I understand and agree with your reasons and have felt that way myself for some time. I had begun covering my head with a chapel veil during the Mass after reading about it and feeling led to do so. Though when we began to attend the Ruthenian parish, not being familiar with the Eastern Catholic practices and traditions in regard to this I did not wear any form of head covering. This is an issue I debate in my own mind all the time. The desire to do what I feel led to do and the desire not to stand out like a sore thumb. Especially as I have noticed the Ruthenian parish no one else is wearing a head covering, I have not done so. But I'm still left feeling somewhat "exposed" and underdressed before the Lord. Obviously the lace chapel veil (more mantilla like) that some women in the Novus Ordo parish we have attended, which is heavily influenced by the Hispanic influence here in Florida, would probably be exceptionally out of place in a Ruthenian parish. Can you describe for me what you cover with and how you do so? Either in this thread or though e-mail would be fine. Thank you.
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