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There is a pretty neat site for the "Alberta Benevolent Cantor Association" with lots of information, pics, and sound files for the 8 tones in Galician chant: http://www.albertacantors.ca/home.asp Check it out! Dave
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Beautiful singing. Thank you for the link.
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Most interesting and worthwhile. Thanks!
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What I find particularly interesting is that this site is made by Ukrainian Orthodox in Canada. In the US, it seems, most Ukrainian Orthodox parishes do not sing Galician samoilka.
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Originally posted by Chtec:
What I find particularly interesting is that this site is made by Ukrainian Orthodox in Canada. In the US, it seems, most Ukrainian Orthodox parishes do not sing Galician samoilka.
Dave Interesting observation. Can it be as simple as Orthodox Halychany ended up in Canada and Orthodox from other parts of Ukraine went to the US? Enquiring minds want to know! As an aside, I once saw the job description for the cantor at the Ukrainian Orthodox cathedral in Parma, OH. He was required to know (or learn) both Galician and Obikhod/Kyivan, though I know Galician was used less frequently. Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!
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Originally posted by KO63AP:
Interesting observation. Can it be as simple as Orthodox Halychany ended up in Canada and Orthodox from other parts of Ukraine went to the US? Enquiring minds want to know!
I don't know. It might also have something to do with where the influential clergy were from, or how they were trained. I know of one UOC-Bound Brook church in PA that used samoilka pretty much exclusively, at least 5 or 6 years ago; I don't know what they do these days. Dave
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Christ is in our midst!
In the Ukrainian Orthodox Seminary in western Canada, both Halicskij and Kievskij napivij were taught, though most of the people who settled in the west were, in fact, Galicians. At the Urkainian Orthodox Seminary in South Bound Brook, NJ, chant classes taught only the Kievan melodies.
In most SBB parishes in Western PA, the parishioners were from Halychina, and the parishes sang Galician chant---until they got a priest who didn't know that system of melodies. A former classmate of mine, now pastor in Carnagie, did just that---changed the chant system from Galician to Kievan because he was more knowledgable of the one than the other.
The "second immigration" bypassed Western PA almost altogether---ending up in more urban areas like NY, Chicago, Detroit, and (to some extent) in Cleveland.
St. Andrew's College in Manitoba published a great many transcriptions of Galician AND Kievan chant, both in Ukrainian and in English, done by Prof. Mazenko. It may be that they are still available, though I don't know that for certain; my copies date back to 1979. <G>
In Christ,
Prof. J. Michael Thompson
Byzantine Catholic Seminary
Pittsburgh, PA
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