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This is a longshot, but following the hunch I mentioned in another post...
How about the Japanese Cardinal? Could Glory of the Olive refer to Olive coloured skin? (meaning yellow olives as opposed to the black ones.)
Yes, of course it is a longshot, but these predictions usually are.
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Originally posted by Theist Gal:
Anyway, this novel, written in 1998, takes place just before and shortly after the death of the Pope John Paul II (at the age of 84 - interesting coincidence, eh?). I won't tell you all the details because it's really an enjoyable novel but among other things, the newly elected Pope takes the name "John Paul III". (But he's not from Brazil.  ) Unless I've confused the novel with another, I thought the new pope in the novel had taken the name "Timothy". (I read the novel waaay back in the last century.)
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Originally posted by Deacon John Montalvo: Originally posted by Theist Gal: [b] Anyway, this novel, written in 1998, takes place just before and shortly after the death of the Pope John Paul II (at the age of 84 - interesting coincidence, eh?). I won't tell you all the details because it's really an enjoyable novel but among other things, the newly elected Pope takes the name "John Paul III". (But he's not from Brazil. ) Well, I don't want to give away too many of the plot points, but there is more than one Pope in the story.
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Originally posted by J Thur:
Its anyone who loves olives.
Italian Pope anyone?
Further guesstimates? The most glorious olives I know of are marinated Sicilian cracked olives. Are there any Sicilian cardinals?
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MMD: I am not sure but, if there is/are out there in Rome, I hope the process will not become a Sicilian "Conclave Nostra!"  Amado
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Dear Dolly,
I'll be sure to read that!
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Dear Friends, Yesterday, I viewed the Mass for the Pope celebrated by Archbishop Leonardo Sandri. I personally met him when he was here, as head of the Papal party, during World Youth Day in 2002. He celebrated Mass at the Martyrs' Shrine in Midland, at which I was present as a representative of the Ontario government, and then I led them across the road to the Fort Ste. Marie for a government-sponsored luncheon. I sat with Dr. Joaquin Navarro-Walls and others of that ilk. The government minister, my current boss now, came over and said, "Alex, I want to introduce you to 'Leonardo.'" I wondered who he was talking about since there were so many high-ranking Vatican dignitaries . . . And he was referring to the Secretary of State for the Vatican, Archbishop Leonardo Sandri . . . I went on one knee before him and kissed the Archbishop's hand etc. I remembered that as I saw the archbishop on TV. Alex
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Dear Alex,
You never cease to amaze me.
That must have been a moment to remember.
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I have heard that the phrase might mean hat the next pope will come from Spain or Portugal since the olive plants are very common there (a Spanish nun said it on TVE)
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"I have heard that the phrase might mean hat the next pope will come from Spain or Portugal since the olive plants are very common there (a Spanish nun said it "
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What about the Near or Middle East? Are there any cardinals from there?
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"I was in Poland in 1978, when John Paul passed away and was at a prayer meeting, after which I asked a friend as who she thought would be electec the next Pope? She looked me streight in the eye and said "Tadziu, everyone knows who the next pope is going to be,." I asked,"Who is it?" She said," The next pope is going to be Karol Wojtila. He is the Laborer of the Sun." This was five days before his election."
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Dear Theodore,
How did she know he is "the Laborer of the Sun"? What explanation did she give? Just Curious!
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Has anyone considered the possibility that 'Gloria Olivae' might be a reference to Jean-Marie Cardinal Lustiger? I mean according to the bookmakers ( http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050414/356/fgcru.html) he is in pole position to become Pope--though that doesnt often mean much--next to Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, and being a Jew he's certainly from the olive tree. I mean, not that I take this stuff too seriously, after all the gospels say nobody knows the time nor the hour and heck I could die tonight so there's no point me thinking about the eschaton. BUT it might be worth a bet at the bookies, nai? (LOL ) Hey dont look at me like that! I'm a university student I need the money... ...honest 
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Yes, go back to Post #4 of this thread on page 1! Amado
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Myles, university students always need money. I know, I used to be one. I still think St. Malachy means one of Olive Oyl's relatives. Perhaps Pope Sweetpea I. Or perhaps, Pope Bluto the Great - not a relative but an associate. Or even Popeye - he could take the name "Pope Spinachius" - has a nice ring to it.
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The fun/bad thing about the "Prophesies of St. Malachy" is that they are incredibly vague. "Laborer of the Sun" or "Glory of the Olives" can mean almost anything about anyone, and it is easy to make a connection between the future Pope of Rome (whoever it might be) and a vague assertion about olives. Now, St. Malachy does say that there are only two Popes left. Countdown 10, 9, 8... Dave
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