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Hello I am doing a school assignment on Catholic and Orthodox churches and I chose to do the Russian Catholic...

I tried looking Russian Catholic on the internet but there isn't much information, a bit on history but not much info in general

So any info would be great asap eversince my assignment is kinda due....

I need to know about the sacraments, saints, feast days/holy days, liturgy and numbers?


Is the language they use Russian? or a different language?

I was posting on a different forum about Russian Catholics and they suggested this site

Thanks

Evanescence

Hi,

Welcome to the Byzantine Forum.

I know little about them, but I did a quick search and found some info. I will give you the links I have found. If you want to search further just go to search - it is just below Post A Reply on your top right - there you will find all sorts of wonderful information.

Hope these help some:
https://www.byzcath.org/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=003397#000000

I just searched for Russian Catholic there and came up with all these links. Each link will open to the part where the word Russian Catholic is used. This page is just from the search on the first forum, Church News. It leaves you #s 2, 3, 4, and 11 that I think might have some info in them. Hope this helps.
https://www.byzcath.org/cgibin/ulti...amp;record=2453703-002132-UAES&dex=1

Pani Rose

My own familiarity with the Russian Catholic Church is from many visits to St Andrew Russian Catholic Church in El Segundo, CA.

They are one of 4 Parishes in the US. They use the same calendar as the Byzantine Rusyn Church. Liturgy is almost entirely English though Russian is still used from time to time. Liturgical chant is Russian tones (Octoechos) and Russian compositions (Tchaichovksy et al). No pews and lots of incense!

some sites that may provide more information:
http://www.stmichaelruscath.org/
http://www.stmichaelruscath.org/outbound/parishes/
http://www.saintandrew.info/
http://www.byzantinecatholic.org/
http://rumkatkilise.org/necplus.htm

Actually, a Google search of "Russian Catholic Church" yields over 3 million pages! These were some of the pages I found more pertinent to History, Liturgy and Feast days/calendars. I will see if I can find more links.

Steve

Thanks for the info, I was having a bit of trouble with google, and the wikipedia and answers.com didn't really have much info and I even tried looking into the encycopedia, I havn't a chance to get to the library and the school library won't allow me to borrow books eversince its the last week of school (my R.E teacher kinda left this assignment to the last minute)

Is there some link to Russian Catholics and Byzantine? because some people have been calling it the Russian Byzantine Catholic church...

Evanescence

The term Russian Catholic seems to be used by 2 groups today. One Latin Rite and the other the Byzantine or Greek Rite catholics. I am from the latter. In the latter the liturgy is usually in Old Slavonic or the national language of the particular country and may even be done using both. In the Russian Cathlic Centre in Kew, Melbourne the preference to use Old Slavonic. Russian is only used in sermons. Now and again the liturgy might be in English all the way through. Sermons are usually preached in English and Russian depending on the mix of the congregaion in attendance. The observance is the same as the Russian Orthodox Church in every matter. Literally the only difference is the Pope is mentioned by name and thats all. The same calendar is also kept. I believe in some places they may follow the Gregorian (civil) calendar and even keep Easter on the same date as the latin. Not in Australia the Centre in kew is in all externals in conformaty with the Orthodox and their practices.

I forgot to mention that the Russian Byzantine Catholics is a very small community scattered across the world and has not had it's own bishop for some time. Fr lawrence Cross at the Austrlaian Catholic University may be able to help or you could look up the Russian Centre in Kew and speak to Fr George Branch at 24 Stevenson Street, Kew. Tel:9862 1256. There were 2 sort of diocese set up for them but they ahve been vacant for a very long time. One was Russia and the other in Manchuria NE China. Both were closed down by the Communists and have not been revived.

Thanks very much

I see your Australian as well do you have a ruff idea on the numbers of Russian Catholics in Australia?

Evanescence

Evanescence,

I see you lost no time in following up on my suggestion to post your query here

As to Pavel's comment regarding the Calendar in use; the "Old Calendar" is kept in the Russian parishes in the US as well and, I believe, generally, in the small number of other Byzantine Russian churches both within and outside of Russia.

Noting Steve's comments regarding the practices by my friend, Father Archimandrite Alexei, at Saint Andrew's, I stand corrected as to the information which I gave you on the other site as to the liturgical language in use.

You will see "Byzantine Russian", "Russian Greek-Catholic", and "Russian Orthodox in Communion with Rome", all used interchangeably. The problem with using "Russian Catholic" is that it can (and is) properly used to refer generically to ethnic Russians of the Latin Rite, as well as to those of the Byzantine Rite.

Many years,

Neil

Hello Irish Melkite

I got a fair bit of info on them now....

What are their sacraments? are they much the same as Roman Catholics? Baptism, communion, confirmation etc.

And what are their saints. are their saints St. Basil the great and St. James?

Evanescence

Evanescence,

See my last post post to you over at the other site. I spoke specifically about Saints and Mysteries (Sacraments to Latins) there.

Many years,

Neil

ok, I did not see that post... you must of posted it after I finished lurking over at CAF...

I was referred to this forum by someone else on a different forum..

Thanks for the info that was a great help...

Evanescence

OK Curiosity kills the cat!

Did you get enough info to write your paper?

Have you learned more about the East than you ever thought existed?

The east churches are very interesting and was a fun study actually... I like your idea of worship, one day I might visit one of the Byzantine churches.

I think I rounded up all I could and turned the internet inside-out to get all the info so I think I've got what I need

Thanks everyone for your help

Evanescence

Our Lady of Kazan Russian Greek Catholic Church in South Boston (gone but not forgotten) used the Gregorian Calendar.