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#90050 12/23/05 12:17 AM
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Slava Isusu Christu!
In our quest for a date to get married, June fourth has been a day that has been up for discussion. This happens to be Pentecost for some of us ;-).
When Matt briefly discussed with his pastor this date, Father seemed to be of the opinion that there would be some difficulty in getting married on that feast. Does anyone know of there being reasons for not getting married on Pentecost?
Thanks in advance for your wisdom!
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I think getting married on Pentecost sounds like a good idea... ;-D

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I have seen Pentecost listed as one of the dates on which marriages are not supposed to be celebrated. I think it has to do with the feast of Pentecost having primacy over other feasts and celebrations.

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Weddings traditionally were forbidden on the vigil and day of great feasts of the Lord such as Christmas, Pascha (and Bright Week), Theophany, Pentecost, etc. in addition to fasting periods.
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Originally posted by ALivingSacrifice:
Slava Isusu Christu!
In our quest for a date to get married, June fourth has been a day that has been up for discussion. This happens to be Pentecost for some of us ;-).
When Matt briefly discussed with his pastor this date, Father seemed to be of the opinion that there would be some difficulty in getting married on that feast. Does anyone know of there being reasons for not getting married on Pentecost?
Thanks in advance for your wisdom!
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I think getting married on Pentecost sounds like a good idea... ;-D

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Why do I have a feeling these two know each other?

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Yeah.. my fiancee and I know eachother fairly well... wink

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Liturgicly speaking, the feast may be said to end in the late afternoon. A 3:00 PM start time for a wedding would satisfy this criterion in most cases. However, I don't think 3:00 PM after the Great Pascha is appropriate.

My wife and I were married on the feast of Sts. Peter & Paul, the 29th of June, but starting at 3:00 PM.

As it was said above, we don't want the wedding to overshadow the feast.

Many years to you both!

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I served a wedding on the Feasts of Sts. Peter And Paul in 2004(OLd Style).My Bishop said it was OK because the Feast was on Monday, had it been on a Saturday, he wouldn't have blessed a Saturday evening wedding.I also did do a wedding on Pentecost in the afternoon back in 2003.Our sister parish here is Holy Ghost church, it wouldn't be proper to serve a wedding there on Pentecost, because it would be on the eve of the parish feast,Spirit Monday!

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Fr. Al raises the issue of Saturday evening weddings.

I agree that they should not be allowed. A Saturday wedding that starts at noon and finishes up by 6:00 PM should be fine. As we know, Vespers, usually between 5 and 7 PM commences the liturgical day of Sunday.

In some dioceses, in the old world especially, there are simply too many weddings to schedule, so Saturday mid day is frequently used as a second preference to a Sunday afternoon.

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OK, I don't really know how to say this except to just say it. Father has indicated that you can't marry on a Saturday at all because of the rule about abstinence on the evening before Liturgy. I have been wanting to ask: do most Eastern Catholic priests expect sexual abstinence by married couples during the fast periods? If so, the couple would be required to abstain about 6 months of the year-that combined with NFP would be a very difficult regimen and I suspect the two things would conflict with each other quite a bit. Is there sometimes "economea(sp?)" applied to different seasons of marriage, i.e. newlyweds, young couples during childbearing years, etc? I think this is going to be a very difficult thing to follow and will cause a lot of guilt and pain that may not be beneficial for spiritual growth or growth in the marriage. I am asking you all, because, frankly, I don't know whom else to ask.
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Dear Michele,The ban on Saturday weddings is because the next day,Sunday, is a Feast, namely it is Pascha on a smaller scale.The Orthodox Church forbids weddings on the eve of ANY feast day.Sometimes a Bishop may give a blessing for a specific reason.I knew a Subdeacon from Lithuania who got married on the Feast of the Cross, Sept 27,1943 or 1944.That is a strict fast day when normally a wedding couldn't occur.The Soviet army was advancing and the subdeacon like so many others, had to flee westward, hence the bishop gave special permission.Many priests, both Orthodox and Greek Catholic, would say that the question of relations between spouses iun general is between the couple and their spiritual father.Abstinence should be by MUTUAL consent.Once a priest with 7 children and one on the way said to me,"Father, you must think I'm a sinful priest>" I replied,"Not at all,Father, it shows that you spend time with your wife."My personnal feeling is that a couple could do a lot worse than having relations on a fast day.


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