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Originally posted by Jim:
I would like the street address for the Ukrainian college which is supposed to be near Vatican City in Rome. I believe it is called St. Clement's. Does anyone have it, or know where I can get it on the web? This is the list that was given to me Jim St. Sophia Cathedral Via Boccea 478 00166 Roma, Italia +396 624 0203 Sts. Sergius & Bacchus, parish church, museum and guest house Piazza Madonna dei Monti, 3 Via Serpenti 00184 Roma, Italia +3906 485 778 Ukrainian Catholic University Via Boccea 478 00166 Roma, Italia +396 624 0203 Pontificall College of St Josaphat, Major Seminary Passegiata del Gianicolo, 7 00165 Roma, Italia Pontifical Minor Seminary of St. Josaphat Pontifico Seminario Minore Ucraino Di San Giosafat Via Boccea 480 00166 Roma, Italia PP Studiti (Studion) Vie deil Laghi, 17 00040 Castelgandolfo, Roma, Italia 00165 Roma, Italia Curia Generalizia Dei PP. Basiliani Via di San Giosafat, 8 00153 Roma, Italia 00165 Roma, Italia Curia Generalizia Delle Monache Basiliane Via Sant Alesso 26 00153 Roma, Italia St Clement - that's not known to me I have to admit - but then this was my first visit, and my list came from a Basilian list. I stayed in the Ss Sergius & Bacchus Guest house and was , apart from language problems, very very comfortable. There is a nice wee bar next door where some of the staff have good English [ I have some French and no Ukie or Italian  ] and are very helpful. Anhelyna
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Update:
Pontifical Minor Seminary of St. Josaphat
Pontifico Seminario Minore Ucraino Di San Giosafat
Via Boccea 480
00166 Roma, Italia
This establishment is still in Ukrainian Greek-Catholic hands, but now functions as a resident for clery who are graduate students, or something like that.
PP Studiti (Studion)
Vie deil Laghi, 17
00040 Castelgandolfo, Roma, Italia
00165 Roma, Italia
According to Bishop Hlib, since the monks have all gone to Ukraine, the former monastery is now an old-age home.
Anhelyna's list does not include all the non-Ukrainian Greek-Catholics in Rome: the Greeks, the Melkites, the Romanians, the Russians and so forth.
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Originally posted by incognitus:
Update:
Pontifical Minor Seminary of St. Josaphat
Pontifico Seminario Minore Ucraino Di San Giosafat
Via Boccea 480
00166 Roma, Italia
This establishment is still in Ukrainian Greek-Catholic hands, but now functions as a resident for clery who are graduate students, or something like that.
PP Studiti (Studion)
Vie deil Laghi, 17
00040 Castelgandolfo, Roma, Italia
00165 Roma, Italia
According to Bishop Hlib, since the monks have all gone to Ukraine, the former monastery is now an old-age home.
Anhelyna's list does not include all the non-Ukrainian Greek-Catholics in Rome: the Greeks, the Melkites, the Romanians, the Russians and so forth.
Incognitus Well in my defense - my informant is Ukie
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Originally posted by incognitus:
Anhelyna's list does not include all the non-Ukrainian Greek-Catholics in Rome: the Greeks, the Melkites, the Romanians, the Russians and so forth. Santa Maria in Cosmedin (Our Lady in Beauty) is the Melkite Patriarchal Church in Rome. Sunday Divine Liturgy: 10:30 Mon. - Sat. liturgical services: None Open: daily 9a.m. to 6p.m Pizza della Bocca dell Verita, 18 Roma 00186 Italy Telephone in Roma - 066781419 Telephone From the United States - 011 39 066781419 The Rector, last I knew, is Father Archimandrite Atanasio Nasr, who is the representative of His Beatitude Gregorios III in Rome. Photos - Saint Mary in Cosmedin [wings.buffalo.edu] Photos - Saint Mary in Cosmedin [stuardtclarkesrome.com] Saint Mary in Beauty - History [roma.katolsk.no] Many years, Neil
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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Special thanks to Anhelyna (and Alex) for the Rome info. The Church of Ss. Sergius and Bacchus will be a direct bus ride for us from our hotel in northeast Rome (near St. Costanza Church). Unfortunately, the other locations will take too long to get to, given the time we have in Rome for eveything we want to do there. Thanks again.
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Saint Clement's is another name for the Ukrainian Catholic University on Via Boccea. It can be reached by bus from the Vatican (involving one change of bus line), but I forget the exact directions.
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My wife and I are back from Italy. While in Rome, we attended Divine Liturgy for Pentecost at Ss. Sergius & Bacchus Ukrainian Catholic Church, but didn't really get to socialize with folks there because of a tight schedule of activities.
The church is located on via Serpenti, not far from the Colisseum and Forum. Our tour director believed that the congregation consists mainly of members of the diplomatic corps, but I had no opportunity to validate that. It is a small church, but has a very high ceiling, with faux marble walls, and a beautiful icon of the Mother of God with the Christ child behind the altar. The icon is surrounded by a golden sunburst. The iconistasis is a see-through type made of wrought metal. The choir sings from a loft above the entrance, and sounded like it had professional section leaders. The celebrant was also a talented bass singer, and the church's acoustics are great for vocal music.
There was an Italian/Slavonic pew book, but the service was mainly Ukrainian and Slavonic. I found it interesting that the priest had more private prayers than we are accustomed to in the Byzantine Catholic metropolia's services in the U.S. The service was actually about the same in length after adding longer choir sections.
I was glad we were able to locate the church and attend the service. Thanks for all the advice here on the Forum. It helped us pinpoint where and when.
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