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Dear Andrew,
Happy OC Feast of St Macarius, Met. of Moscow!
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: And, as a married man, I can honestly say that there are times when the idea of mandatory celibacy seems awfully tempting . . . 
Alex The real reason why Eastern Catholics don't get remarried after the death of a spouse!  (I've threatened to join a convent if my husband dies before I do...  ) Tammy
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Dear Tammy, When the friends of St Thomas More kidded him about why he married such a short wife, More replied that one should always choose the lesser of two evils . . . Alex
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Alex, My husband and I are the same height. Perhaps that is why we always go toe-to-toe and butt heads! Tammy
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Dear Tammy, Your husband has the requisite wrestling skills . . . But I'm sure he lets you win! Alex
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I would like to defend Marshall's transliteration. It is in the classical and British tradition. Of course I disagree with the point he was making though . . . In college I took 5 semesters of upper-division Classical and Patristic Greek, including a Thesis on Oedipus at Colonus. The phrase mias gynaikos means that the bishops etc. must not have more than one wife--it was not a prohibition on celibates. Of course the Church, which possesses the power to Bind and to Loose, can institute stricter requirements if she wishes. That should not be questioned. No nonsense about a "tradition of men", please--it is a tradition of the Latin Church, beginning in the 3rd and 4th centuries. Of course you guys can think that it is imprudent or should be changed etc. I disagree, but I won't argue with you because I am forbidden from doing so. God bless. Oh, by the way marriage is great. I highly recommend it. LT
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Dear Alex - I did specify GENUINE monastics, hence not paramonastic clerks regular!
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Dear Latin Trad, Thank you for defending my transliteration. It looked fine to me. I don't know of any other way to transliterate. I apologize if I offended any Greeks out there. No nonsense about a "tradition of men", please--it is a tradition of the Latin Church, beginning in the 3rd and 4th centuries. You only prove my point. This tradition began in the 3rd and 4th centuries and NOT with Our Lord or the Holy Apostles. It is therefore not part of the deposit of faith and NOT Sacred Tradition (in the capitol "T" sense). Latin Trad, I hear what you are saying. Honestly, I would prefer a celibate priest to a married priest - the same goes for bishops. However, to say that ONLY celibates can be admitted to the sacerdotium is not a binding Tradition - as on the level of infant baptism, attendance of corporate liturgies on Sunday, or the use of sacred images. The Holy Father could issue a decree today and admit married candidates to the priesthood in the Latin rite with violating Sacred/Divine Tradition or violating the immutable deposit of faith. Ergo, mandatory celibacy is NOT part of the Sacred Tradition! in Christ, Marshall
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Dear Marshall, Well, my wife prefers married priests to celibate priests. And so do many of our parishioners. As a matter of fact, I don't think we have any celibates, last time I checked . . . What does a celibate priest look like, by the way? Alex
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Dear LatinTrad, Welcome back, fellow penitent on the Forum! Marriage is great, but wait until the honeymoon is really over. You can chuck that hairshirt once and for all!! Alex
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Marriage is the greatest invention of God. It is a penance and the deepest joy. Similar to young children.
BTW, my wife is giving birth to numbers 2 & 3 tomorrow. Our eldest son is 1 1/2. Three kids under 18 months is definitely a source of sanctification! Yet from it all springs fountains of joy and contentment. St John of the Cross and St Teresa of Avila were correct when they taught that detachment and penance lead to joys more profound than any man could experience.
Please pray for my wife.
St Mary, pity her,
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Congratulations my dear man! Hope all goes well! Hope you've started saving for the college fund! Pozdravi! Anton
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Dear Marshall,
St Gerad Majella, patron of expectant mothers, pray for her!
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: Dear LatinTrad,
Welcome back, fellow penitent on the Forum!
Marriage is great, but wait until the honeymoon is really over.
You can chuck that hairshirt once and for all!!
Alex Oh, to be young and ignorant! Eh, Alex? Tammy
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Dear Tammy, When I think of your name, I think of St Tamara, Queen of Georgia. That's why the saying pops up: Keep Georgia on your mind . . . Alex
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