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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
Dear Theist Doll,
I didn't say that - I've read Tridentine Catholics say that.
I agree with you . . .
Alex I stand corrected, sweetie! 
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Dear Theist Doll, No problem, Babe!  Alex
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
Dear Tony,
I may be misreading you, but Met. Alimpy is still alive and is not canonized - St Ambrose is.
Both "Alimpi" and "Alypi" are two versions of the same name, with or without the "m."
Alex Alex I am not thinking that the Metropolitan mentioned is dead...just that he must be named after a saint and my question is which day is that saint commemorated. I have looked high and low for the name with -m- and have not found it elsewhere.
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Logos Teen, Hate to be the bearer of bad news but it looks like a universal indult for the Tridentine Mass is not going to happen. John Allen who is the finest Catholic reporter out there regardless of what you think of his newspaper's agenda (I personally oppose it) reported that all his sources are saying that an indult won't be part of the document. Here is what he says: Because the participants take their obligation of confidentiality seriously, it�s difficult to pry loose many details. One point that can be reported with confidence, however, is that as it stands, the document contains no reference to wider permission for celebration of the pre-Vatican II Mass, the so-called �Tridentine rite.� Interest in whether the document would address the old Mass was generated by a May 13 news item published on the Web site of Inside the Vatican magazine, based on an interview with Cardinal Francis Arinze, prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship.
Under the terms of John Paul�s 1988 indult Ecclesia Dei, it is up to diocesan bishops to decide who may celebrate the old Mass and under what circumstances. It appears that the forthcoming document is not likely to effect that discipline.
�There may be some who would want us to address it,� one source said, �but so far it�s just not there.�
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Thanks, Mark. However, I've read many more reports (with notable members of the Church quoted) that say the document will in fact focus on the wider use of the Tridentine rite.
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Dear Tony, I have several Ukrainian books that use the name with the "m." Must be a Slavic thing . . .  Alex
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Alex, What exactly does Must be a Slavic thing . . . mean? I did not ask about Alipius (Latin) or Alipios (Greek) but Alipii - compared to Olimpii (typo in my first message), Slavic forms obiously. Can you cite where the name occurs in both forms in a Ukrainian text? Tony
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Dear Tony,
Not without some serious searching - and a job-search is my priority right now.
You are way above my simple head, Sir.
I still don't understand what you are getting at.
But that is due to my fundamental ignorance.
God bless,
Alex
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Originally posted by Teen Of The Incarnate Logos:
Thanks, Mark. However, I've read many more reports (with notable members of the Church quoted) that say the document will in fact focus on the wider use of the Tridentine rite.
Logos Teen Logos, I hope you are right. I am curious which notables you have seen quoted other than Cardinal Arinze? Like I said, John Allen usually gets it right on this stuff. He broke O'Malley going to Boston before even O'Malley knew and if he says that "one point that can be reported with confidence," then I tend to trust him. On the other hand they're still working on drafts and if Cardinal Arinze wants the wider use provision in, he probably can make it happen. And Allen did stipulate that his report was "as it stands now."
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Thanks Axios. I had not seen that.
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