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#247317 08/01/07 07:02 AM
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Have a good Apostle's Fast !

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John,

Do you mean Dormition Fast? I thought the Apostle's Fast was the lenten period prior to the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul.

Happy fasting to you as well!

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few questions about this dormition fast. Are we to abstain on sundays as well, or are those always feast days and therfore we can break the fast from saturday to sunday evening? Also there is the feast day of the Transfiguration as well.

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Originally Posted by searching east
few questions about this dormition fast. Are we to abstain on sundays as well, or are those always feast days and therfore we can break the fast from saturday to sunday evening? Also there is the feast day of the Transfiguration as well.

Traditionally, I think that the fasting regulations are the same, whether it is Lent, Advent, Apostles, or Dormition. I am not sure if we can break the fast on Transfiguration. Sundays are fast days during the fasting seasons. In the east, we make no distinction between Sunday and the rest of the week when it comes to fasting. Of course, one can practice a mitigated fast with the permission of one's spiritual father.

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Oh, I should add that traditionally, wine and oil are permitted on weekends and perhaps fish?

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According to the Orthodox Calendar Company Daily Lives calendar, there is a mitigation of the fast for wine and oil (but not fish) on Saturdays, Sundays, and the feast of the Transfiguration.

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Originally Posted by ebed melech
John,

Do you mean Dormition Fast? I thought the Apostle's Fast was the lenten period prior to the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul.

Happy fasting to you as well!

Gordo


OOPS ! Duh. You're right, and I'm out to lunch. Sorry. blush

Happy Dormition Fast everybody !

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Originally Posted by harmon3110
Originally Posted by ebed melech
John,

Do you mean Dormition Fast? I thought the Apostle's Fast was the lenten period prior to the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul.

Happy fasting to you as well!

Gordo


OOPS ! Duh. You're right, and I'm out to lunch. Sorry. blush

Happy Dormition Fast everybody !

-- John

No worries - I just thought you had joined the Older-Old Calendarists! crazy

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Larry L is correct: the Dormition Fast requires complete xerophagy ('dry eating', i.e., no meat, meat products, milk, milk products, eggs, fish, wine, nor oil) during the week and allows wine and oil on Saturdays and Sundays.

Saturdays and Sundays are never days of fast (except Holy Saturday) in our Byzantine tradition. But they are days, during which we continue to abstain (although somewhat less).

The Feast of the Transfiguration being a first class feast means that the fast is mitigated by two levels: we may eat fish on that day to celebrate the Transfiguration.

This year, if you keep the strict fasting requirements, the Feast of the Dormition falls on Wednesday (a day of fast and xerophagy), so you'll be celebrating the Falling Asleep of Our Lady with fish (but not with meat or milk products).

What I have described is the strict and ancient fast. In modern times, some individuals and communities may lessen the strictness somewhat.

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Larry L is correct: the Dormition Fast requires complete xerophagy ('dry eating', i.e., no meat, meat products, milk, milk products, eggs, fish, wine, nor oil) during the week and allows wine and oil on Saturdays and Sundays.

I would like to point out that in the Ukrainian Orthodox tradition, fish is permitted during Lenten periods except on Wednesdays and Fridays.

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Historically, when did the permission to eat fish in fasting periods enter Ukrainian tradition? Is this a Latinisation, or has it been part of the tradition before the Ukraines entered into communion with Rome?


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