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As I don't follow this Forum very much, I don't know what is being proposed. But we say Theotokos at Divine Liturgy, doesn't that translate as God Bearer? Wouldn't Mother of God be something else in Greek?
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No, Theotokos is not accurately translated as God-Bearer. That is Theophoros, and is a title used for a substantial number of Saints.
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I really don't see what's wrong with "God-bearer" as a reasonably accurate translation of "Theotokos," since the most accurate translation is probably "one who gives birth to God" or "birth-giver of God." ISTM that if I were to say "today my wife bore a child," while the guy in the next room were to say, "today my wife gave birth to a child," there's no real difference in meaning between the two phrases.
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CIX!
Doc, a more literal translation of Theotokos would be "Birth-giver of God" which is used in some Orthodox translations, and can even be found in a couple of obscure Greek Catholic translations.
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I agree actually like "Birth-giver of God". But that is just me. Father Seraphim Rose used this title if I remember correctly.
Sayidna Nicholas Samra said at the Byzantine Spirituality conference I atteded this weekend that he prefers to retain the word Theotokos and thinks the translation birth-giver of God is some what lop-sided.
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OK learned gentlemen, what about Mother of God. Mater Theou?
Does that appear in the Greek Liturgy?
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Матерь Бога appears in the Doistono "Est. But it is descriptive rather than Salutatory.
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